what are the plans to move the county squads on for next season  

--Last edited by baldilocks on 2009-07-07 22:24:50 --

I put this post in another forum regarding the same subject:

If we're to make progress in the region, and beyond, there needs to be things in place which the players are expected to realise.

Firstly the forum started about team selection and subs. You cant have a strict "lose two and you're out" policy. Sometimes you play well and lose twice. Other times you play badly and win twice. Your opponent may have gone in-off the black, does that make you a better performer on the day than someone who was broke and dished against? And if you have such a policy what's the point in having a team captain? However i do believe that all players who attend should play some part in matches, even if its a token one frame in the final set. Expecting players to travel to God knows where, stand there all day and not get a single frame will discourage others from even bothering with county.

As for Curtis, in fairness he was asked to attend and for the first 4 matches this season played no part, only getting a game in the last couple of matches. So he's done well in the youths and has now been rewarded for his long loyalty to Nottinghamshire pool. Others should take notice. Obviously there needs to be a system in place so that we dont lose youth players when they get to 18, as most counties do and i believe, with Shrek & co, we can lead the way in that respect.

Im pleased to see people mention how the fledging Notts Tour can help the county, thats why it was set up in the first place. Granted, we all play regularly in local leagues but there's no better match practice than in a proper match enviroment over distance with prizes on the line. Ive been a little disappointed that some people, who claim to be this and that, havent put their money where there mouths are and had a go on a tour thats on their own doorstep. I believe that the Notts Tour should be supported by all of the county players and i believe it can help us get Notts back to the top of the region, in time. OK people have limited time at weekends but im sure the county players can spare 4 Saturdays a year?

With the latter in mind im looking to work with Curtis, Steve at Phoenix and Jimmy to set up a proper Notts tournament calendar for 2009/10 after the current Notts Tour ends next month. With our own county tour, one-day events,, and a proper system to enable more youths to progress into the seniors, along with a good trialing system we can get Nottinghamshire back to the top.  

--Last edited by lifeizfab on 2009-07-08 10:42:34 --

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baldilocks wrote : what are the plans to move the county squads on for next season

No plans yet mate, but we are constantly touting for talent and especially keen to pursuade the remaining proven players back into County (i.e. Howitt, Rimmington, etc.). Any encouragement to these guys by current team members wouldn't go amiss either.

Obviously the management team are looking at players who are performing in the B side with a view to stepping up and vice versa. This is not limited to season changeover I might add. Also, the juniors are beginning to fire now and we're already keeping a close eye on some excellent young players coming through.

The trials process has been successful since we reintroduced it two seasons ago and will remain a key platform for introducing new blood and encouraging competition in 2010. The format for next season's trials has yet to be finalised but they will incorporate the best features of previous events whilst taking on board any improvements identified by previous lessons learned.

Qualification to the finals will be more realistic next season with top 2 places in the region on offer and with the proposed restructuring of County geography on the cards for 2011 we are likely to have fresh opponents in the near future. These are exciting times in county pool and I'm sure these facts will make being a part of the county squad even more attractive.

We're almost there already, but a just few more pieces in the jigsaw and I believe we will have the absolute cream of the county's pool players in the Nottinghamshire squad where they should be.  

--Last edited by WildAngus on 2009-07-08 09:46:54 --

One problem we have to address is the way players view county. Some see it as a once-a-month jolly. I recall us having a mens A v B friendly arranged then no-one turned up as "its only a friendly". There needs to be a bit of pride in representing your county from these players, or find some new ones who do so!

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WildAngus wrote :   The trials process has been successful since we reintroduced it two seasons ago

The pool god that is NFFC doesnt think so and he is always right !lol

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lifeizfab wrote : One problem we have to address is the way players view county. Some see it as a once-a-month jolly. I recall us having a mens A v B friendly arranged then no-one turned up as "its only a friendly". There needs to be a bit of pride in representing your county from these players, or find some new ones who do so!

Hmmmm....

I think that's unfair on the guys Daz. I think the vast majority of players now wear the shirt with pride (apart from the ones who don't wear the shirt because they think their IPA shirt gives them more of the "do you know who I am?" factor). A couple of years ago support for the county was at an all time low, but the corner has definitely been turned since then.

As for the friendly at the start of the year. This was hastily arranged and following a busy schedule of trials, county match and interleague giving very few free weekends for family etc at the time. So I shouldn't take that as a yardstick for measuring committment.

Where there have been rare signs of players lacking committment then the team captains have wasted no time in addressing the issues directly and players have been given a harsh choice. We don't want players who aren't committed and I believe the rest of the management team are with me on that one.

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PaulI wrote :   The pool god that is NFFC doesnt think so and he is always right !lol

Anybody that doesn't qualify WOULD say that.

Who is he anyway?

He is the chaiman of the No F*****g Friends Club, amongst others lol
He's bveen quiet recently but I'm sure he will be ready to get involved
In his favourite subject again as i here he is big fans of you, ron, Pat and Neil
 Lol  

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PaulI wrote : He is the chaiman of the No Fucking Friends Club, amongst others lol He's bveen quiet recently but I'm sure he will be ready to get involved In his favourite subject again as i here he is big fans of you, ron, Pat and Neil  Lol

Lol. Well put. We think his dad was the phantom flan flinger.

 

Following on from the NFFC debate (if you can call it that) as this is the first time I've taken the slightest bit of interest.
...and referring to the previous post...

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WildAngus wrote :   Anybody that doesn't qualify WOULD say that. Who is he anyway?

OK. This fish has taken the worm and I've had a 2 minute scan of previous messages and it's a no brainer...

I'm not going to give you away but here are a couple of maggots from me....

NFFC - What are you doing on the "Nottinghamshire County" pages anyway?

...and secondly shouldn't your nic be changed to something beginning with "D"

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WildAngus wrote : Following on from the NFFC debate (if you can call it that) as this is the first time I've taken the slightest bit of interest. ...and referring to the previous post... OK. This fish has taken the worm and I've had a 2 minute scan of previous messages and it's a no brainer... I'm not going to give you away but here are a couple of maggots from me.... NFFC - What are you doing on the "Nottinghamshire County" pages anyway? ...and secondly shouldn't your nic be changed to something beginning with "D"

I think Me, Yourself and Lee Mason all have the same idea John!

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WildAngus wrote :   Anybody that doesn't qualify WOULD say that. Who is he anyway?

You WOULD have to be at trials to qualify also.

I didn't really want to reply in here anymore but I must interject because if i'm baffled by the no brainer Angus has just put so must everyone else. What is the D for?  

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PaulI wrote :   The pool god that is NFFC doesnt think so and he is always right !lol

Hello Paul you bright spark. Look at the county tables. Would you say the trials have worked?

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WildAngus wrote :   Hmmmm.... I think that's unfair on the guys Daz. I think the vast majority of players now wear the shirt with pride (apart from the ones who don't wear the shirt because they think their IPA shirt gives them more of the "do you know who I am?" factor). A couple of years ago support for the county was at an all time low, but the corner has definitely been turned since then. As for the friendly at the start of the year. This was hastily arranged and following a busy schedule of trials, county match and interleague giving very few free weekends for family etc at the time. So I shouldn't take that as a yardstick for measuring committment. Where there have been rare signs of players lacking committment then the team captains have wasted no time in addressing the issues directly and players have been given a harsh choice. We don't want players who aren't committed and I believe the rest of the management team are with me on that one.

Obviously im pleased to hear that. The same can be said of the youths, if they dont support the youth series we've set up maybe we should look at whether or not they're really bothered. Like i say, county should be more than just a once-a-month jolly.

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nffc wrote :   Hello Paul you bright spark. Look at the county tables. Would you say the trials have worked?

Yes the county trials have worked. We were short on players (good players ). There wasn't a clear route into the squad. There is now. Even you n.f.f.c. Can try and obtain county status. All this doesn't ensure results though. Success can be measured many ways and to start with you need a vibrant open fair recruitment system and some clear logical method of promotion. This is now what we have , whether you admitt it or not. I would say that is success. Results are the tricky thing. Like it or not we are in a very competitive region and we will have to raise our standards. This i believe stems from the juniors. So well done shrek and daz because i can see improvement in that area. Also steve at phoenix does a lot to help , all these people trying for nothing more than the pleasure of seeing the county do well. Whats been your contribution n.f.f.c. ?

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nffc wrote :   Hello Paul you bright spark. Look at the county tables. Would you say the trials have worked?

Hello oh dim one. The tables do not represent whether a trial worked or not. It just means the boys havnt either played well enough to win more. Or it means that the other counties have better players. Simples !!

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munson roy e wrote :   Whats been your contribution n.f.f.c. ?

Sounds like he tried but wasnt good enough eh

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munson roy e wrote :   Even you n.f.f.c. Can try and obtain county status.

He prefers the Interleague Ron..