I heard that mr shrek favoured a relative over a potential star within county pool.

Shrek should resign and Notts youth get someone in that will take the team further!! And possibly bring players in that can do the business!!

Eric is the future and a quality player!  

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R8 wrote : I heard that mr shrek favoured a relative over a potential star within county pool. Shrek should resign and Notts youth get someone in that will take the team further!! And possibly bring players in that can do the business!! Eric is the future and a quality player!

i have just a couple of issues with the above post

1. What the hell has the youth team selection got to do with you?

and 2. the manager might want to see the lesser players before the start of next season to see what they are capable of.

personally i don't know who was picked and who wasn't, so i cannot comment on that, but what i do know is that the youth team has improved a hell of a lot since Richard took over, and compared to the first few matches the team spirit is a lot better now than what it was then.

if you cannot say something positive i suggest you don't say anything at all "whoever you are".

As my first season it has been a new experience for me and one i have enjoyed. The team was not very confident after the retire of their last manager and so losses of players was a result. As a new pool player to the team and also nominated captain for the youths, i strongly disagree with the comment given above by an unknown person (R8), as Richard has built my confidence within pool and also within becoming a team player. Richard has brought spirit, confidence and made the Nottingham Youth  team a pleasure to be a part of. This team is now strong and play as they belong together. Our team is not just a team, its a family and we will start of next years season strong and confident, with eachother supporting and cheering the Nottingham name.

I dont know much as i'm only a young player, but what i do know is that Richard is the best thing the Youths could have asked for and so i thank him for taking the role of our manager and friend.

As for choosing a relative over a top player that was mine and Richards decision becuase that top player played very poorly, so its never about favourtisium its how you play for your position in the team,as when i lose my games 2 out of 2 then i also would be dropped for our other subs. So that comment was unnecessary and untrue!

As for the unknown (R8), maybe you should come along to our County matches and see what a real good time looks like.  

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You having a good laugh Rich? Don't think you even need to make any comment mate.

You have worked hard this season to try and progress the Youth team and I think you have done a wonderful job. You have earned a lot of respect in a short time from the Youth team because these young players can see you are doing everything you can to help them all improve their game.

You know the whole management team support you in what you are doing, so keep up the good work. Just  a shame a thread like this had to be started on the Youth forum. These young players deserve better coming from adults.

In my defence im not knocking the youth team but I am shrek, who is an adult. Picking family members over better players should not be done in my eyes.

Apparently shrek has said that Chris Brookes at Pegasus is sh*t and cant coach no-one. Now for anybody who plays snooker in Notts they know who he is and will know the calibre of the man.

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As for choosing a relative over a top player that was mine and Richards decision becuase that top player played very poorly, so its never about favourtisium its how you play for your position in the team,as when i lose my games 2 out of 2 then i also would be droped for out weaker subs. So that comment was unnessersary and untrue!

Well if thats the case then fair enough but to slag off top snooker players who coach young lads wanting to better themselves is wrong. I'm only going on what was said to me. Keep it up.

As for you Coatesy whats it got to do with you? Go get girlfriend and dump the cue, live a little mate. You must have so much tension there building up all the time. Maybe loosen up with a beer when you spend endless hours s******g pool tables. Do you take your cue to the pictures with you? Does it sleep with you at night? Is it sat next to you now while you read another pointless post which in all honesty has nothing to do with you. You make it something to do with you so you can suck up to people. Those same people not so long ago when playing in the lower leagues and not knowing anyone you would slag off endlessly so i'm told.  

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You seem to be doing some name dropping here al beit not yours "I heard" and "apparently" are not justifcation for you to ask that Rich steps down. Rich is the Youth team manager and it is up to him what squad he fields he is the one that will stand or fall by his decisions. My I surggest if you have a problem with Rich then you pm him.

This is not a knocking shop.Richard stepped in when nobody else wanted a team where most of the top players were leaving.From having a junior side on the brink of folding Rich has turned it around.Alot of the team are still very young,and in a couple of years wil be alot stronger.Players that have come through the Notts set-up in the past are Andy Wilson,Clint I'anson,Ryan Hewitt and Ashley Radford but to name a few.I think Rich will produce a few more if he sticks it out.As for team selection in my experience everyone has an opinion,End of the day that it his choice.Right or wrong you stand by that man.Also in my experience relatives and friends have to prove their position more than anybody else in the team for fear of reprisal.R8 WHAT experience do you have picking a team? If you talk to Richard he will explain his decision,not that he has to.As for Chris Brookes i have heard the name but why should that effect a county official picking his team at pool.I believe he is an accomplished snooker player,but never heard of him on the pool scene.

R8 make your self known if you want to be taken seriously.  

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R8 wrote :   Well if thats the case then fair enough but to slag off top snooker players who coach young lads wanting to better themselves is wrong. I'm only going on what was said to me. Keep it up. As for you Coatesy whats it got to do with you? Go get girlfriend and dump the cue, live a little mate. You must have so much tension there building up all the time. Maybe loosen up with a beer when you spend endless hours s******g pool tables. Do you take your cue to the pictures with you? Does it sleep with you at night? Is it sat next to you now while you read another pointless post which in all honesty has nothing to do with you. You make it something to do with you so you can suck up to people. Those same people not so long ago when playing in the lower leagues and not knowing anyone you would slag off endlessly.

All i have to say to you R8 is keep your nose out of the Nottingham Youths business. You are brining us down by brining our manager down, if you have nothing nice to say then keep it closed. I dont seem to understand why you have brought this to a *YOUTH* forum, what ever Richard has said about another person has nothing to do with the Nottingham *Youth* team. As the captain of the Nottingham Youths i make it clear that you LEAVE OUR *YOUTH* FORUM ALONE!!!

Why not just say who you are instead of hiding behind a pseudonym

you might get more respect that way, although i'm sure we know who you are.

as for Richard, i think it's safe to say that everyone involved in County knows what a good job he is doing, and as you are not involved, you wouldn't know and never will.

i do feel i should say something as i play interleague with Shrek and i know how much managing the youth team means to him, and he really doesn't deserve this sh1t, after volunteering himself when nobody else wanted to know.

after putting this i have decided not to bother engaging in your little petty swipes, and i suggest nobody else does either, because you are just looking for a reaction, which i think is probably the saddest thing of all.  

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Coatesy if you know who I am why not come out and say it? I'm sure the admin on this forum do. The fact is how can good players progress when they are being held back by a manager picking a relative who is not so good. Also telling a youngster that a very good snooker player is rubbish and you will never learn anything from him.

It might look like a dig at shrek personally but it could be any manager who was in the position. Why is it when people put an opinion on this forum it becomes a witch hunt?

Knife I agree relatives playing in a team do need to prove themselves more. I have no experience at picking pool teams but football I do and you need the best side possible to perform. Maybe i was wrong saying shrek should leave because like you say he took it on when no one else wanted to. I do think Notts youth may of lost a very good player because of it.

Dear Mr or Mrs R8!
I don`t often agree with Coatsy, The Knife, PK & Pool lady all the time but on this one - 100%
Notts are very lucky to have Shrek give up his time and money to help Notts youth progress, it is an absolutely tiresome task and very awkward at time because of juniors being involved.
Thie season they have had nothing to play for but to build team confidence, learn and develop the game tactically and through practise, this is very positive and the results are getting better because of it, it takes time to build a team. Richards heart is in the right place, no - he is not a qualified Pool Coach - there arent any!! But his experience over the seasons will help him to suggest tactical options to young players.You should - we all should be very greatful to Richard for all his hard work and efforts, support him fully and you must understand that without him - you will lose more than just 1 player! This is about building the kids confidence and game for the future

I would also suggest that the thread should not have been posted in the first place - very insensitive and potentially damaging to Notts Pool as a whole

R8 said:
I do think Notts youth may have lost a very good player because of it.

I would rather risk losing one player than a very keen and dedicated manager and friend, people that are prepared to put time, money and effort in are harder to come by than one decent player!!!

Keep your head up Rich, He doesn't know what he is talking about.
As a friend of Eric's I don't even believe he would leave after one bad game! Unless R8 has had some influence!

Matt  

I dont know Eric enough to give him any influence and he dont know me enough, again I will state this is what has been said to me.  

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eric is a good player but if he played badly y not sub him? if i was playing badly i would expect to be subed for a lesser player who will gain experience than me give away legs.if it was me playing badly, y not give players more experience. i think ur argument for eric is stupid and will now probley make him feel akward coming back to county, which means he will get no experience at all for our team. which is proberly selfish from u ?  



TBH GET THE R8 OUT OF OUR FORUM????  

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OK I dont know where to begin with this 1st of all thanks to my captain,liam,tony,pat,adam for there support

I ASSURE YOU ALL IM GOING NOWHERE

now as for the issues raised

1. i never pick a family member over anybody else this season was about team building and not winning everybody who turned up i tried to give them a game
2.eric is a good player who is a valuble member of our team
3. as for me slagging off some snooker player what has that to do with my youth team

finally both my son and eric are members of a team and last time i look there was no I in team they will play,be subbed and not be picked at all depending how they play favouritism will not be an issue else surely daniel would have played 4 out of 4 evry game

and as for r8 remember this has alredy been tried by mighty so please ring me approach me or pm me and i will be more than willing to discuss these matters with you

Shrek  

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shrek wrote : OK I dont know where to begin with this 1st of all thanks to my captain,liam,tony,pat,adam for there support I ASSURE YOU ALL IM GOING NOWHERE now as for the issues raised 1. i never pick a family member over anybody else this season was about team building and not winning everybody who turned up i tried to give them a game 2.eric is a good player who is a valuble member of our team 3. as for me slagging off some snooker player what has that to do with my youth team finally both my son and eric are members of a team and last time i look there was no I in team they will play,be subbed and not be picked at all depending how they play favouritism will not be an issue else surely daniel would have played 4 out of 4 evry game and as for r8 remember this has alredy been tried by mighty so please ring me approach me or pm me and i will be more than willing to discuss these matters with you Shrek

Well done Shrek, a very positive post. You will see that Geoff has answered this fully on another post, so hopefully this has now been put to one side, You can probably deduce from all this that everyone except 1 single person is supportive - hey that aint bad in this position Shrek!! Keep up the great work, we are fully behind you. I have no respect for someone posting comments like R8 did in the first place - never mind keeping his name secret - but probably a good idea for him

Looks like you've got 1 critic and a hell of a lot of fans Shrek.

Keeps you firmly in a job in my eyes.

Keep up the good work.